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One of the Most Obscene Phrases in Any Language; the Judicial Committee
by TMS in
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2. beliefs
a tribunal of religious, if not spiritual, men, whose decision can alter lives, disrupt, no, destroy, families, ruin young lives, create angst, pain, depression, hopelessness, sorrow, despair can be the job for three typically unqualified men known in jw land as the judicial committee.. my first judicial experience as a kid of 18 serving on the jc involved disfellowshipping an elderly sister for apostacy when she would not promise to quit frequenting a neighborhood christian science reading room for personal study.

my second big case involved a baptized 12 year old who allegedly stole a hot wheel from k-mart.

he admitted to nothing, answering every question with "i dunno" and was put on probation, the 60's equivalent of reproof.. in subsequent years, i "served" on committees judging accused adulterers, fornicators, thieves, gamblers, non-providers, taking up boxing, slanderers and yes, apostates, sitting also on so-called appeal committees as well.
bats in the belfry

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Whoa ! ?
My first judicial experience as a kid of 18 serving on the JC
They let you serve as elder age 18 ?

Smiddy is right: It`s not what you know but who you know
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New Shunning Video - RC 2016
by wifibandit in
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2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g20rww_-7ua.
bats in the belfry

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The follow-up video
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CO16 E 26 No16 1
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speaks about "more than 15 years of disfellowshipment", with her having two children in the meantime.
How despicable for the parents not to see their child, nor have any contact with the grandchildren.

Would Jesus accept that behavior of Pharisees or Scribes?
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All 2016 Convention videos in English and all Talk outlines for download
by Watchtower-Free in
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2. beliefs
all convention videos in english and all talk outlines for download.

http://avoidjw.org/2016-regional-convention/
bats in the belfry

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In video CO16 E 16 No07 1 an obviously talented child is asked by the teacher to attend a program for young gifted musicians playing violin.

Dad says it's no good. Too much worldly influence. "We do things for enjoyment, worldly people have competition. - One day you will understand."

Another promising career going down the toilet.
There is not too much worldly influence - only undue influence.

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All 2016 Convention videos in English and all Talk outlines for download
by Watchtower-Free in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
all convention videos in english and all talk outlines for download.

http://avoidjw.org/2016-regional-convention/
bats in the belfry

. . . that bunker video is missing Russian subtitles.

It doesn't look like the mob is looking for them, either.

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HTTPS (SSL security) Now Available
by Simon in
1. forum
2. announcements
i've setup an ssl certificate so you can now use https to browse the site.

this creates an encrypted connection between your browser and the server which is more secure and prevents urls visited from being shown in router logs, content can't be eavesdropped etc.... there are also some performance benefits but they won't kick in until i make some more changes.. consider it experimental for now but at some point it will likely automatically redirect you to the secure version of a page.. you can try it by adding 's' to the http part of any address or just goto the home page and browse from there (some mixed content means you may not get the fully green https status in your browser just yet though).. let me know if you have any issues using the site..
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Well, yeah . . . it works, sort of.
The main page, is encrypted.
When clicking on any of the subpages, such as Forum, Topics, etc., it reverts back to an unsecured environment (using Opera v36).
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"well beyond the intent of the scriptures" 7:44
by biblexaminer in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
if you have the jw app running on your tablet, watch the latest (may) governing broadcast and hear tony the jackass, and when you get to 7 minutes and 44 seconds ...hit the pause button.. read the words at the bottom of the screen as per the jw app close captioning.. "well beyond the intent of the scriptures" .

he is describing the governing body past, like the ghost of christmas past.

yes, the governing body past were a bunch of freaking yahoo's violating 1 cor.
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Let's not forget of TOMOs advise to elders penned down and approved by the executive board.
It's a prime example of going beyond the things written:

"A sound rule is found in the words of the apostle Paul: “Do not go beyond the things that are written.” (1 Cor. 4:6) Elders do not go beyond the things that are written in the Bible. And by extension, they do not go beyond the Bible-based counsel written in the publications of the faithful and discreet slave."
2008 The Watchtower, April15, p. 7, par. 19
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So can you pray for others that are not JW's ? Or only JW's
by tor1500 in
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2. friends
i'm a witness, so i need to know...can we pray for someone that isn't a jw.

reason i ask, once a friend of mine was going for an operation.

i asked an elder could he pray with her before she goes into the hospital.
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Hell, yes, you can pray with and for whoever you like. . . . Pray for Obama, Putin, Merkel, Cameron, Holande, and the like. Then show him the urge to do just so in 1. Timothy 2:1-3.
That elder probably got farther in reading the "Flock"-Book than reading the Bible.

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Apathy carts in NoCal
by kaik in
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2. beliefs
i spent couple wonderful days in napa valley and sonoma with visits to san francisco.

what hits me was the number of apathy carts in the city.

they were at powell station, embarcadero, fisherman wharf, etc.
bats in the belfry

. . . it's due to the memorial season drive, perhaps?
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2016--Medical Documents & BOE!
by Atlantis in
1. watchtower
2. bible
2016 medical documents!..

re: simplified advance decision document.

.. https://we.tl/sj94l0wsir.
bats in the belfry

The dpa-E Bi Medical Directive document in part reads:

I consent to my relevant medical records and the details of my condition being shared with the Emergency Contact below and/or with member(s) of the Hospital Liaison Committee for Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Now I, for one, would not want to have "my relevant medical records and the details of my condition being shared with the HLC.
They tattletale for sure.
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Is it true: the memorial will stop after the last anointed have passed away?
by FinchAndWeston in
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2. beliefs
i heard that the memorial will stop after the last anointed have passed away ... is this information true/false?

just curious.

it's secondhand.
bats in the belfry

He then said that after that when the 144k are all in heaven the memorial will no longer be observed.
. . . so, then, the memorial celebration will come to a finish before Armageddon. The latest teaching says that the 'remnant' will be called to heaven - raptured - before the big A.
Correct?